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Long time mindfulness teacher Kurt Hoelting share his wisdom and knowledge in this conversation. I love Kurt's connection to wild place and how right now we are all being asked to site with the wildness of ourselves in really challenging ways.

In this conversation I have the great honor and privileged to connect with two amazing women who are changing the conversation with their 10-step program to transform the conversation we have around our big emotions and supporting our own growth so that we can creatively address our worlds biggest problems.

When I went into our conversation I was feeling overwhelmed with many factors - finances, this new homeschool routine, how to understand and make meaning out of these times. During this conversation I felt my entire energy shift as I moved from my fear and not trusting myself into gratitude and maybe even a little excitement to try things my own way (hello inner rebel).